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Eloy joined us to talk about a new study College Futures commissioned from Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce that - [From Presence to Power: A Conversation with Rashad Robinson](https://www.letshearitcast.com/rashad/) - There's a question Rashad Robinson wants every nonprofit and foundation leader to sit with right now: Are you building power — or just showing up? Rashad spent 13 years leading Color of Change, co-founded the Fight Back Table — one of the largest progressive coalitions in the U.S. — forced over 100 corporations to leave - [Fiona Guthrie of the Innocence Project on Using Story to Fight for the Wrongfully Convicted](https://www.letshearitcast.com/fiona/) - Fiona Guthrie spent decades reporting stories as a broadcast journalist and later served as Director of Story at the Ford Foundation. Now, she’s using storytelling to help free people who are wrongfully imprisoned, including those on death row. In this episode, Eric talks with Fiona about the extraordinary career that led her to the Innocence - [Please Be Good at Philanthropy with Jen Ford Reedy](https://www.letshearitcast.com/jen_ford_reedy/) - Jen Ford Reedy has spent more than a decade leading the Bush Foundation, and over that time she has come to a conclusion that should be a challenge to the field—nobody actually has to be good at philanthropy. There's no license needed, no regulators keeping them accountable, and no market that punishes funders for doing - [What Every Nonprofit Communicator Can Learn From Arts Marketing Genius Sean Kelly](https://www.letshearitcast.com/sean-kelly/) - Sean Kelly is one of the sharpest marketing minds Eric has ever met — and he's spent his career doing something all arts organizations dearly want to do: truly understand what their audiences want, align it with their own artistic vision, and set ticket prices accordingly. Sean is the founder of Vatic, a dynamic pricing - [Marc Moorghen of Lever for Change – The Elvis of the Nonprofit World](https://www.letshearitcast.com/marc-moorghen/) - On the latest Let's Hear It, Eric sits down with Marc Moorghen, VP of Marketing and Communications at Lever for Change. Founded by the MacArthur Foundation, Lever for Change connects donors with bold ideas through massive open calls. In just six years, Marc and his team have helped move $2.5 billion to nonprofits — including - [So You Wanna Be a Consultant? Going Independent with Regan Douglass](https://www.letshearitcast.com/regan/) - A lot of people who work in nonprofits and foundations eventually get the tickle. You know the one. What if I just... went out on my own? Regan Douglass did something about it. After years as a communications leader at PolicyLink, California Humanities, and the College Futures Foundation, she pulled the ripcord and launched Sparkwise - [Glen Galaich on Why Big Giving Falls Short](https://www.letshearitcast.com/glen_galaich_book/) - Glen Galaich is the CEO of the Stupski Foundation — and he just wrote a book that bites the hand that feeds him and serves it up in a 236-page meal. Control: Why Big Giving Falls Short, out today, makes an argument as simple as it is explosive: when a donor takes a tax deduction - [A Sector in Crisis: CEP’s Elisha Smith Arrillaga Exposes the Dangerous Disconnect Between Foundations and Nonprofits](https://www.letshearitcast.com/elisha/) - This might be the most important episode we've ever done, and we swear we’re not just saying that. If you work in or around philanthropy, stop what you're doing and listen. Nonprofits are facing record demand—higher than during COVID—and they're getting less funding. Not just from government. From foundations too. The sector is in freefall, - [Making Meaning of the Madness with Kristen Grimm](https://www.letshearitcast.com/kristengrimmthethird/) - Kristen Grimm returns to Let’s Hear It as the show’s first three-time guest for a wide-ranging, candid conversation about meaning making—a human process of interpreting what’s happening in the world and building shared understanding to guide action. In this episode, Eric and Kirk talk with Kristen about what meaning making can teach nonprofit communicators, foundations, - [Dr. Sacoby Wilson on the Dirty Secret of AI—and the Communities That Are Fighting Back](https://www.letshearitcast.com/sacoby_wilson/) - AI needs power. A lot of power. But what happens when that power comes from 35 unpermitted gas turbines dropped into the middle of a historic Black neighborhood? In this episode, Eric sits down with Dr. Sacoby Wilson, award-winning environmental health scientist and recent Heinz Award for the Environment honoree, who’s helping Boxtown in Memphis - [Amanda Renteria on Making Government Work for Everyone](https://www.letshearitcast.com/amanda_renteria/) - On the latest Let’s Hear It, Eric sits down with the unstoppable Amanda Renteria, CEO of Code for America — and wow, is this one a shot of optimism for your civic soul. From growing up in California’s Central Valley to becoming the first Latina Chief of Staff in the U.S. Senate, to running Hillary - [Nonprofit AF: Vu Le on Crappy Funding Practices, Hope, and Hard Truths](https://www.letshearitcast.com/vu-le/) - Nonprofits are essential, but are they getting what they need to succeed? And what happens when philanthropy clings to old habits while democracy teeters? In this episode, Eric sits down with writer, humorist, and nonprofit truth-teller Vu Le, creator of Nonprofit AF. With his trademark mix of sharp wit and blunt honesty, Vu pulls no - [The Public Interest Comms Textbook We Needed Yesterday - with Ann Christiano and Angela Bradbery](https://www.letshearitcast.com/annandangela/) - In this episode of Let's Hear It, Eric sits down with two public interest comms powerhouses—Ann Searight Christiano and Angela Bradbery—who’ve just dropped what might be the most anticipated textbook in our field: Public Interest Communications Strategy for Change Makers. Ann and Angela share how their years in the trenches at places like the Robert - [A Playbook for Change — Rachael Kagan on Journalism, Philanthropy, and Ending Domestic Violence](https://www.letshearitcast.com/rachaelkagan/) - Let’s Hear It is back after a brief break—and we’re diving into one of the most powerful conversations we’ve had yet. In this episode, Eric sits down with Rachael Kagan, Director of Communications and Public Affairs at the Blue Shield of California Foundation. With a background in journalism and public health, Rachael has channeled her - [The Great Doug Hattaway on the Art and Science of Effective Communications](https://www.letshearitcast.com/hattaway/) - What makes an effective communicator in today’s chaotic political landscape? This week, Eric sits down with the legendary Doug Hattaway—founder of Hattaway Communications, political strategist, and storytelling expert—to find out. From his early days in journalism and politics to helping shape the way nonprofits, foundations, and campaigns communicate, Doug shares the lessons he’s learned along - [The Politics of Beauty with John de Graaf](https://www.letshearitcast.com/john-degraaf/) - What’s the economy for, anyway? Shouldn’t time, happiness, and beauty be at the center of our lives? We know this sounds, er, quaint, given the times, but don’t we all need a bit of beauty right now? This week, Eric sits down with writer, filmmaker, and activist John de Graaf, whose decades-long career has been - [Transparency, Collaboration, and the Fight Against Misinformation with Wikimedia Foundation’s Anusha Alikhan](https://www.letshearitcast.com/anusha/) - Is Wikipedia the last bastion of truth on the internet? Eric speaks with Anusha Alikhan, the Chief Communications Officer for the Wikimedia Foundation – the nonprofit behind Wikipedia, the internet's largest encyclopedia. Anusha shares insights into how Wikipedia grew from a scrappy experiment into a trusted global resource with 50 billion monthly views and over - [ComNet 24 is Coming! - With Sean Gibbons, Carrie Clyne, and Tristan Mohabir](https://www.letshearitcast.com/comnet-24-is-coming-with-sean-gibbons-carrie-clyne-and-tristan-mohabir/) - We are so excited about ComNet24 in Kansas City! When Sean Gibbons joined the Communications Network as its new leader a decade ago, he was tasked with leading an organization with 400 members and a staff of, um, himself and a ham sandwich. Today, the Network boasts over 4,000 members and a team of eight, - [Esteban Gast, Climate Comedian - Yes, You Read That Right](https://www.letshearitcast.com/estebangast/) - Sometimes it's okay to take a moment away from the massive challenges and simply laugh. Thanks to Esteban Gast and the organization he works for, Generation 180, we can even laugh about climate. Well, actually, Esteban helps us better understand how we can take actions that matter, understand that we're not alone, and have a Sometimes it's okay to take a moment away from the massive challenges and simply laugh. Thanks to Esteban Gast and the organization he works for, Generation 180, we can even laugh about climate. Well, actually, Esteban helps us better understand how we can take actions that matter, understand that we're not alone, and have a - [Eloy Ortiz Oakley of the College Futures Foundation on the Power of Community Colleges](https://www.letshearitcast.com/eloy/) - Hey folks, we’re back after a quick summer break. Hope you missed us! As many parents pack their kids off to college this month, it’s important to remember that almost two out of five college students in the U.S. attends a community college. These are students who are often working full time, caring for family - [Grace Nicolette of the Center for Effective Philanthropy Unpacks the $17 Billion Bombshell - MacKenzie Scott's Philanthropy Revolution](https://www.letshearitcast.com/grace/) - In this dandy episode of Let's Hear It, Eric Brown sits down with Grace Nicolette from the Center for Effective Philanthropy to make sense of the phenomenon that is MacKenzie Scott's revolutionary approach to giving. Grace is the Vice President for Programming and External Relations at the Center for Effective Philanthropy and the co-host with - [Hey Philanthropy, You Can Fund Policy Work! No, Really! - A Conversation with Marc Solomon of Civitas Public Affairs and William Foster of the Bridgespan Group](https://www.letshearitcast.com/marcandwilliam/) - Fans of Let’s Hear It (and there are oh-so many!) will acknowledge that Eric and Kirk get a little nutty about their guests sometimes. Well, this time, Marc Solomon of Civitas Public Affairs and William Foster of the Bridgespan Group drive Kirk and Eric to 11. The topic this time is Marc’s and William’s new - [The Clean Energy Economy is Coming! – with Rachel Korberg of the Families and Workers Fund and David Etzwiler of the Siemens Foundation](https://www.letshearitcast.com/etzwilerandkorberg/) - Okay, folks, we know there’s an election happening and that you might be a bit, um, distracted. But one thing is sure, whatever happens this week, a clean energy economy is coming, and we need to do everything we can to make this transition work for everybody. So when you’re finished blowing into your paper - [Paper Bags and Patience: A Post-Election Pep Talk with Takema Robinson](https://www.letshearitcast.com/takema/) - Need a dose of hope and perspective after a tough election season? Join Let's Hear It co-host Eric Brown for a conversation with Takema Robinson, CEO and co-founder of Converge, a social justice communications consulting firm. Drawing on her background in art and African American studies, Takema brings a refreshing perspective on how imagination and - [We Kick Off Season Seven with Mister Mystery - Kirk Brown!](https://www.letshearitcast.com/kirk-brown/) - It’s a brand-new year, a new season, and… a brand-new low? This week, Let’s Hear It flips the script as co-host Eric Brown interviews the mystery man himself, Kirk Brown. That’s right—our favorite interlocutor steps into the hot seat to reflect on his fascinating journey from humble Iowan roots to becoming a nonprofit communications force - [What’s Next for Climate Justice? – A Conversation with EPA Advisor Danielle Deane-Ryan](https://www.letshearitcast.com/danielle/) - We know that these post-election blues are a thing, but here’s the deal – the need for climate justice isn’t changing. This week on Let’s Hear It, we’re diving deep into the work that’s pushing environmental justice to the forefront of philanthropy, policy, and big-dollar investments. Eric sits down with Danielle Deane-Ryan, Senior Advisor to - [Suzanne Ehlers of USA for UNHCR Gives Us Hope on World Refugee Day](https://www.letshearitcast.com/suzanne-ehlers/) - As we approach World Refugee Day, it’s so good to know that there are people like Suzanne Ehlers who are making an extraordinary difference and people’s lives and providing real hope for the future. Suzanne is the Executive Director and CEO of USA for UNHCR, a nonprofit organization that supports the United Nations Refugee Agency. - [Fatima Angeles of the Levi Strauss Foundation Challenges Foundations to Fund their Partners "Like We Want Them to Win"](https://www.letshearitcast.com/fatima-angeles-of-the-levi-strauss-foundation-challenges-foundations-to-fund-their-partners-like-we-want-them-to-win/) - A huge thank you to Fatima Angeles, the Executive Director of the Levi Strauss Foundation, for joining us on the latest episode of Let’s Hear It. Fatima talks with Eric about the Levi Strauss Foundation's groundbreaking work in areas like reproductive justice, worker rights, immigrant rights, and democracy. Fatima discusses her 24-year tenure at Cal - [Robert Pérez and the Genius of Upstairs, Downstairs](https://www.letshearitcast.com/heartwired/) - We’ve been doing this show for a while, and every so often the pieces just elegantly slide into place. In thirtyish minutes, Robert Pérez does this for us. Robert is the founder and Chief Exploration Officer of Wonder: Strategies for Good, a network of experts in messaging, storytelling, psychology and public-opinion research that works with - [Kristen Grimm of Spitfire Strategies Takes on the Trust Challenge](https://www.letshearitcast.com/trust/) - Societies can’t thrive without sufficient levels of trust – trust in our elected officials, in our major institutions, the value of the dollar bill in our wallet, and even in our belief that our fellow motorists will abide by the traffic laws when we enter an intersection. You know where this is going, don’t you? Kristen Grimm speaks with Eric about Spitfire's new resource to build trust in American society. - [Heather McGhee Talks About the Amazing Future that the Multiracial Governing Coalition Will Bring](https://www.letshearitcast.com/heathermcghee/) - Join us for a truly extraordinary conversation with the amazing Heather McGhee, the author of The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together. Heather exposes the lie of so-called "zero-sum" thinking—where one person's gain is seen as another's loss—and flips it on its head by explaining how diverse coalitions - [Inside Philanthropy’s David Callahan Gets All Carrot-y Stick-y With It](https://www.letshearitcast.com/callahan/) - Eleven years ago, David Callahan launched a most audacious project – a new publication that was going to get under the hood of philanthropy (to borrow from that great philosopher, Ross Perot) and expose the good, the bad, and the meh. Some folks chortled, some scoffed, and some cast their eyes heavenward in the hope - [Chris DeCardy, the President of the Heinz Endowments, Convinces us that Pittsburgh is the Center of the Universe](https://www.letshearitcast.com/decardy/) - When Chris DeCardy took the reins of the Heinz Endowments last year, he was one of the very few former foundation communications directors to ascend to the lofty heights of president. And Chris has dived in with the energy of a teenager. Indeed, if there is a more energetic – nay, ebullient – foundation president - [A Marriage Made in Heaven! - Elena Chavez Quezada of Gov. Newsom’s Office and Don Howard of the Irvine Foundation Talk Partnerships](https://www.letshearitcast.com/elenaanddon/) - Governments have money and foundations can take risks. Shouldn’t these be marriages made in heaven? Amazingly they’re not, but in California, we’re starting to see partnerships that are bucking the trend, which can be spectacularly good examples of how to make great collaborations work. On this episode of Let’s Hear It, Eric speaks with Elena - [Oscar Nominee John Hoffman Tackles the Racial Wealth Gap with his Amazing Film, “The Barber of Little Rock”](https://www.letshearitcast.com/barber/) - Academy Award season is here, but while the rest of the world may be debating which half of the Barbenheimer phenomenon will take home the most trophies, at Let’s Hear It we’re putting all our chips on Best Documentary Short nominee “The Barber of Little Rock,” co-directed by Christine Turner and our dear friend John - [Ed Begley, Jr. and Eric Go Way Back](https://www.letshearitcast.com/ed-begley-jr/) - In this episode of Let’s Hear It, our guest is none other than one of Hollywood’s most passionate and entertaining environmentalists – the amazing Ed Begley, Jr. As it happens, Ed and Eric go way, way, back, having worked together in Hollywood in the last millennium. Today, they’re both working in environmental communications, after a - [Anat Shenker-Osorio – The Magical Message Whisperer of Progressive Causes](https://www.letshearitcast.com/anat/) - We are so delighted to present the legendary Anat Shenker-Osorio. Yes, that’s right, that Anat Shenker-Osorio. Maybe you’ve heard her on Ezra Klein, MSNBC, on her excellent podcast Words to Win By, or read her work in the New York Times, the Guardian, and more. On our latest episode of Let’s Hear It, Anat goes - [Don Chen of the Surdna Foundation Kicks off Season Six of Let’s Hear It](https://www.letshearitcast.com/don-chen-of-the-surdna-foundation-kicks-off-season-six-of-lets-hear-it/) - How many of us in the nonprofit world can track our interest in climate to nightmares we had about natural disasters at age ten? Anyone? Oh, right, just Don Chen, President of the Surdna Foundation, former director of the Cities and States program at the Ford Foundation, former CEO (and founder!) of Smart Growth America, - [Holiday Re-Release - Shanelle Matthews of the Radical Communicators Network](https://www.letshearitcast.com/holiday-re-release-shanelle-matthews/) - Here is another one of our favorite interviews - Shanelle Matthews, founder of the Radical Communicators Network, former communications director for the Movement for Black Lives, and now Distinguished Lecturer at the Colin Powell School for Civic and Global Leadership at City College at the City University of New York. Shanelle is simply amazing and - [Holiday re-release - the Great Jim Canales!](https://www.letshearitcast.com/holiday-re-release-the-great-jim-canales/) - Today, we offer another one of our favorite interviews - a blast from the past with the inimitable Jim Canales, President and Trustee of the Barr Foundation. Jim is charming, funny, and one of they absolute nicest people in philanthropy. If you didn't get a chance to hear this conversation the first time, you're in - [Holiday re-release - Trabian Shorters](https://www.letshearitcast.com/holiday-re-release-trabian-shorters/) - This holiday season we're re-releasing some of our favorite and most popular episodes. Today - Trabian Shorters, one of our leading thinkers on asset framing - defining people by what they're hopes and dreams and what they have to offer. He has been such an important influence on so many of us. LISTEN HERE - [Alison Smart is Changing How We Talk About Climate Change](https://www.letshearitcast.com/alison-smart/) - In our latest episode, we offer a fascinating conversation with Alison Smart, the Executive Director of Probable Futures - a nonprofit climate literacy initiative. Alison shares her organization's approach to democratizing climate science, making climate predictions accessible, and providing practical educational resources for anyone, anywhere, for free. Eric and Alison discuss how we can better - [Larry Kramer’s Hewlett Foundation Exit Interview](https://www.letshearitcast.com/larry-kramers-exit-interview/) - When Larry Kramer announced recently that he was leaving the Hewlett Foundation to run the London School of Economics, it marked the end of an extraordinarily productive tenure as the head of one of the world’s largest and most influential charitable foundations. In Larry’s nearly twelve years at Hewlett, he helped lead a new era - [Jen Carnig, the Brand-Spanking-New Head of Spitfire Strategies](https://www.letshearitcast.com/jen-carnig/) - As the new president of the groundbreaking consulting firm Spitfire Strategies, Jen Carnig, who succeeds the legendary Kristen Grimm, might feel a little like whoever takes Megan Rapinoe’s place. It might seem a little daunting and very hard on your hamstrings, but think of the possibilities! Jen may have big shoes to fill, but she’s - [Ashwath Narayanan is Proof That There’s Hope for the Future](https://www.letshearitcast.com/ashwath/) - When our guest, Ashwath Narayanan, was 22, he launched Social Currant, a creative agency that is helping nonprofits and issue organizations use social media to reach audiences more effectively. By contrast, when co-host Eric was 22, he was working as a production assistant on low budget horror movies. So there’s that. Ashwath and his team - [Stacy Palmer of the Chronicle of Philanthropy Reflects on Thirty Five Years as a Watchdog and Cheerleader for the Field](https://www.letshearitcast.com/stacypalmer/) - On our latest episode of Let’s Hear It, we’ve snagged a giant in philanthropy. Our guest this week may well know more about philanthropy than any human walking the planet. Stacy Palmer created the Chronicle of Philanthropy thirty-five years ago, and since then her publication has simultaneously been philanthropy’s watchdog and its cheerleader (as it - [Dena Kimball and David Brotherton on the Kendeda Fund’s Epic Journey](https://www.letshearitcast.com/kendeda/) - Spending out, spending down, sunsetting – whatever you call it, it’s a tricky business. This year the Kendeda Fund will close its doors, having provided over one billion dollars in funding over the past thirty years. Their causes included girls’ rights, preventing gun violence, environmental sustainability, advancing racial equity, and supporting veterans, among others. Kendeda - [Going Commando with Nima Shirazi of Spitfire Strategies and Citations Needed](https://www.letshearitcast.com/nimashirazi/) - This week on Let’s Hear It, cynical-ish and salty-tongued Nima Shirazi of Spitfire Strategies and the hit podcast Citations Needed endures a slightly arduous, minorly torturous time behind the mic with Eric. Nima’s career is full of exciting experiences, including his current job as a vice president at Spitfire Strategies and drumming in rock bands, - [Tony Proscio Deconstructs Word Salad in the Philanthropic Jargon Space](https://www.letshearitcast.com/tonyproscio/) - We have an impactful episode deep-diving into how Tony Proscio, a thought leader in this space, has moved the needle on the innovation of language in nonprofit and foundation work. He and Eric partner to get granular on staying transparent with folks from the donor pipeline to the board room. *record scratch* Just kidding! This - [Tara Dorabji on the Power of Art and the Art of Power](https://www.letshearitcast.com/taradorabji/) - As long as there has been art, there have been artists using their creativity to try to transform society for the better. On the latest episode of Let’s Hear It, Eric speaks with Tara Dorabji, Vice President and Chief Strategy Officer at the Center for Cultural Power, an organization dedicated to harnessing the power of - [Making Reparations a Reality: Blazing a Trail to Racial Repair with Trevor Smith](https://www.letshearitcast.com/reparations/) - Join us in this thought-provoking and inspiring episode as we welcome Trevor Smith, the Director of Narrative Change at Liberation Ventures, an organization helping to strengthen the movement for Black-led racial repair. Trevor is a writer, researcher, and strategist focused on the topics of racial inequality, wealth inequality, reparations, and narrative change. He is also - [Designing the Office Space for the Aftertimes - Emily Krone Phillips of the Spencer Foundation and Francis Court of Wondersphere](https://www.letshearitcast.com/aftertimes/) - Let’s face it, most of us will never work the way we did before COVID. The office is different, and how we learn, share, and connect are different. So what are we going to do about it? Emily Krone Phillips, the Communications Director at the Spencer Foundation, working with her colleague Francis Court of the - [Alan Jenkins asks, “What if the 1/6 Insurrection Succeeded? – in a Comic Book](https://www.letshearitcast.com/alan-jenkins-interview/) - Harvard Law professor Alan Jenkins has argued cases before the Supreme Court, made grants at the Ford Foundation, co-founded a national narrative change nonprofit, and now has co-authored…a comic book. But not just any comic book. 1/6: The Graphic Novel is a powerful and chilling reminder that great communications and great advocacy takes many forms. - [Marta Tellado of Consumer Reports – Our Privacy is a Setting, and it Needs to be a Right](https://www.letshearitcast.com/martatellado/) - Marta Tellado’s new book Buyer Aware: Harnessing our Consumer Power for a Safe, Fair, and Transparent Marketplace is both an amazingly useful tool for today’s consumer to navigate the rat’s nest that is the modern marketplace and a manifesto for consumer freedom in the age of digital everything. Marta talks with Eric about the dangers - [Jacob Harold’s New Book Will Make Your Head Hurt (in a good way)!](https://www.letshearitcast.com/jacob-harolds-book-will-make-your-head-hurt/) - Many of us spend a career doing something, gathering stories, ideas, skills, and things like that and think to ourselves, “Hmmm. All this stuff I’ve learned might make a good book,” and then go right back to the brewpub for another Hazy IPA. Not Jacob Harold. Mind you, Jacob has had quite a rather distinguished - [Using The Science of Storytelling to Change the Narrative on Poverty and Wealth: Shanelle Matthews of Radcomms and Annie Neimand of Third Sector](https://www.letshearitcast.com/using-the-science-of-storytelling-to-change-the-narrative-on-poverty-and-wealth-shanelle-matthews-of-radcomms-and-annie-neimand-of-third-sector/) - If you aren't at the table, you’re on the menu, Shanelle Matthews and Annie Neimand remind us. In their new report, Broke: How the Nonprofit and Philanthropic Sectors Are Talking About Poverty—And How We Can Do Better, they note, “The stories we’re currently told about how the rich got rich, why the poor stay poor, An extremely comprehensive and articulate guide to doing good in the 21st century. - [Ken Weine of the Metropolitan Museum of Art Has a Very Important Person on the Line](https://www.letshearitcast.com/ken-weine/) - Ken Weine blows our mind. As the Chief Communications Officer and Senior Vice President for External Affairs at one of the most famous and (dare we say it?) important cultural, social, and historical institutions on the planet, he oversees the marketing and media for 43 exhibitions a year, not to mention the famous Costume Gala, - [Jenn Hoos Rothberg of Einhorn Collaborative Dares You to Hope](https://www.letshearitcast.com/jenn-hoos-rothberg-dares-you-to-hope/) - If you work in the social sector, you know how hard this moment is. You would be forgiven for feeling that our social and political world is spinning hopelessly out of control. Go ahead, belly up to the bar, or the ice cream section of your local supermarket, or whatever you do when you get - [Episode One: Larry Kramer - Hewlett Foundation](https://www.letshearitcast.com/larry-kramer-hewlett-foundation/) - Welcome to the first episode of Let's Hear It! Larry Kramer is the President of the Hewlett Foundation and he has stood out for being candid,opinionated, and seemingly unafraid of what the rest of the philanthropy world thinks of him. Lucky forhim that he’s an incredibly nice guy, and lucky for us that he’s endlessly - [Episode Two: Amrit Dhillon](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-two/) - How do we communicate in ways that are authentic, emotional, and evocative? At a time when we are bombarded by reports, books, blogs (okay, and podcasts), the Race Card Project at the Aspen Institute invites people to tell their own stories about race and identity in a whopping six words. To date, they have collected - [Episode Three: Grant Oliphant](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-two-2/) - If anyone knows how foundations can and should use communications, it’s Grant Oliphant. Grant, whowas formerly communications director at the Heinz Endowments, now runs the organization as itspresident. As a former board chair of the Communications Network, the national organization offoundation and nonprofit communications professionals, Grant may be one of the country’s greatchampions for our - [Episode Four: Minna Jung](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-four-minna-jung/) - Minna Jung has had a varied and wonderful career in nonprofit and foundation communications. She has run communications at a large foundation (Packard), a national non-profit (Earth Justice), and she’s even a published author (a children’s book called William’s Ninth Life). Minna talks about the pitfalls of professional ambition, the challenge of being creative while - [Episode Five: Jesse Salazar](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-five-jesse-salazar/) - Jesse Salazar is one of the most thoughtful and intelligent people you will ever be lucky enough to meet.If Jesse sounds wise beyond his years, it’s not just his soothing baritone–it might also be a result of his incredibly interesting background. Living in the only Hispanic household in his rural Pennsylvania community, he learned how - [Episode Six: Kristen Grimm](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-six-kristen-grimm/) - For anyone who works in the field of nonprofit or foundation communications, the name Kristen Grimm looms large. She started as an intern at Fenton Communications and within just a few years she was running the company, at age 28. She launched Spitfire Strategies when she was in her early thirties, and in the intervening - [Episode Seven: Phil Buchanan](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-seven-phil-buchanan/) - Phil Buchanan, the President of the Center for Effective Philanthropy, has been helping foundations do their work better for almost two decades. But given that philanthropy is one step removed from the action, does that mean that Phil is helping people to help people who help people? What role do foundations and the organizations that support - [Episode Eight: Na'ilah Nasir](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-eight-nailah-nasir/) - Na’ilah Nasir once wanted to be a first-grade teacher, and she ended up as President of the Spencer Foundation – the country’s largest foundation dedicated solely to education research. Along the way, she served on the faculty in the Education Department at Stanford, she was chair of the African American Studies Department at UC Berkeley (go Bears!), and she went on to - [Episode Nine: Jim Canales](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-nine-jim-canales/) - It’s hard to talk about Jim Canales without getting a little gushy. He’s generous, funny, and way too modest for someone who has spent more than two decades as an amazing leader in our field. And as the president of the Irvine president from 2003-2014 and the Barr Foundation since then, Jim has established himself - [Episode Ten: Beth Kanter](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-ten-beth-kanter/) - The re- re- re-invention of Beth Kanter. Beth Kanter became a nonprofit social media phenomenon because she used a new technology – blogging – to take and share notes about her work. She became an expert on what makes a healthy workplace because she wasn’t feeling 100% and decided to write a book about how feeling good contributes to better functioning - [Episode Eleven: Kristen Mack and Jaison Morgan](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-eleven-kristen-mack-jaison-morgan/) - In June of 2016, the MacArthur Foundation announced that it would award a single $100 million grant to a single organization that was making a difference on a specific solution. They opened up a competition to allow organizations to vie for the award in a campaign they called 100&Change. The winner was the Sesame Workshop and the - [10 Things We've Learned During 10 Episodes (okay, 11)](https://www.letshearitcast.com/10-things-weve-learned-during-10-episodes-okay-11/) - Thoughts on launching a podcast for foundation and non-profit communicators from Let's Hear It! co-hosts Eric Brown and Kirk Brown (no relation). During mid-2016, Kirk - the "Tom Sawyer" of Let's Hear It! fame - managed to track Eric - whom we will not call Huck - down at the Social Study café in San - [Episode Twelve: Alfred Ironside](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-twelve-alfred-ironside/) - Cronies in Bars Having Cocktails–Alfred Ironside, Ford Foundation’s International Man of Mystery By the time Alfred Ironside arrived at the Ford Foundation in 2006, he had already had a career that most of us could hardly imagine–from leading disaster communications at the Red Cross to media relations at UNICEF, with stints in advertising in Bulgaria - [Episode Thirteen: Doniece Sandoval](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-thirteen-doniece-sandoval/) - Doniece Sandoval Might Just Change the Way You See – Taking “Radical Hospitality” to the Streets Doniece Sandoval took a bit of time off from her career as a marketing and communications leader to take stock of her life and her future. Little did she know that she would be soon leading one of the most - [Fred Blackwell of the San Francisco Foundation Talks About Equity, Optimism, and Trying to Pass his Grandmother’s “Smirk Test.”](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-fourteen-fred-blackwell/) - In five years as CEO of the San Francisco Foundation, Fred Blackwell has emerged as one of philanthropy’s foremost leaders dedicated to advancing racial and economic equity. As a community foundation, the San Francisco Foundation is able to raise money, make grants, and do the kind of political advocacy that private foundations cannot. Fred and - [Episode Fifteen: Hunter Johansson of Solar Responders Makes His Famous Twin Sister Proud](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-fifteen-hunter-johansson/) - Hunter Johansson could have easily traded on the fame of his twin sister Scarlett for all kinds of rotten purposes. Instead, he co-founded a nonprofit to put solar panels on the roofs of first responder stations in Puerto Rico to save lives and protect the planet. Hunter sat down with Eric to talk about why - [Episode Sixteen: ComNet 19 - The Most Exciting Event of the Year!](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-sixteen-jade-floyd-and-stefan-lanfer/) - If you are interested in using communications for social change, the Communications Network Annual Conference is the single most exciting event of the year. From October 2-4, over a thousand foundation and nonprofit professionals will gather in Austin, Texas to learn from each other about how to use communications to make a difference. Stefan Lanfer - [Episode Seventeen: David Morse – A Giant Among Foundation Communicators](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-sixteen-david-morse-2/) - If you’ve worked in foundation communications in the past thirty years, chances are that David Morse helped you – directly or indirectly. At the Pew Charitable Trusts, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and then the Atlantic Philanthropies, David helped advance the field of strategic communications like few others. Many of the modern concepts of communications - [Episode Eighteen: Bonus Episode ComNet19 Preview](https://www.letshearitcast.com/episode-seventeen-comnnet19-preview/) - We couldn’t resist – ComNet 19 is next week and we’re so excited that we’re bringing you a bonus edition of Let’s Hear It! Eric spoke with two of the staff from the Communications Network who are helping to make it all happen this year - Carrie Clyne, Deputy Director of Events and Community, and - [Stacey Abrams at ComNet 2019 – Let’s Get to Work](https://www.letshearitcast.com/stacey-abrams-at-comnet-2019/) - Stacey Abrams is one of the most exciting and inspiring leaders of our time. Last week, she came to the Communications Network conference and gave the kind of speech that reminds us why we're in this business. Then she sat down with Communications Network CEO Sean Gibbons and took questions from the audience of a - [Desmond Meade Unites the Voters of Florida in the Cause of Justice](https://www.letshearitcast.com/desmond-meade-at-comnet-2019-2/) - In 2018, Desmond Meade helped pull off the unthinkable. He united Florida voters by leading the campaign to pass Amendment 4, a grassroots citizen’s initiative that restored voting rights to over 1.4 million Floridians with past felony convictions. The initiative passed by nearly thirty percentage points – a rout in a state that is famous - [Trabian Shorters Takes Us To School at Comnet 2019](https://www.letshearitcast.com/trabian-shorters-at-comnet-2019-2-2/) - This is the third in our bonus series of keynote speeches from ComNet 2019. Trabian Shorters is the CEO and Founder of BMe Community, which provides fellowships for Black leaders in the US, and which trains organizations in matters of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Trabian’s amazing talk explains his work to promote what he calls - [Villy Wang Blazes A Trail](https://www.letshearitcast.com/villy-wang-blazes-a-trail/) - Villy Wang's mother wanted her to be a corporate lawyer. Raised by a single mother in public housing in New York, she was supposed to be a hard-charging, successful professional - a leader in her field. And she certainly is, but what she created is not quite what her mother had in mind. Villy is - [Drew Altman of the Kaiser Foundation Pens a Love Letter to Communications](https://www.letshearitcast.com/drew-altman/) - Drew Altman took a relatively small grantmaking foundation and transformed it into a media powerhouse. As the President and CEO of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, better known as KFF, Drew has turned his organization into one of the most influential and valuable non-partisan sources of health news in the country. What other foundation - [Apolitical’s Lisa Witter Teaches Us That Bureaucrats Are People Too, and Much More](https://www.letshearitcast.com/lisa-witter/) - Lisa Witter has always played to win. Since coming into the world “with a bang” after her mother went into labor at a demolition derby, she has focused on the intersection of politics and communications. Running for president on Showtime’s American Candidate, writing The She-Spot: Why Women are the Market For Changing the World and - [PICO's Ben McBride Practices What He Preaches](https://www.letshearitcast.com/ben-mcbride/) - After spending a number of years in Oakland as a pastor, Ben McBride decided to move his family into a part of Oakland that was known for its challenges in order to better understand the lives of the people he hoped to serve. What happened next, as Ben tells Eric in our latest episode of - [Season Two is Here!](https://www.letshearitcast.com/season_two_is_here/) - Thank you so much for listening to Let's Hear It. It's been a wonderful year, and we're so excited to kick off our second season. In this special episode, Eric and Kirk sit down to talk about their favorite Let's Hear It moments in 2019, what they've learned hosting and recording, and what they're looking - [Professor john a. powell will change your life](https://www.letshearitcast.com/professor-john-a-powell-will-change-your-life/) - There are people who come along who don’t just change the way you think or how you do your job, but who just change you – they change the chemical makeup of your body. Professor john a. powell is one of those people. john a. powell is an internationally recognized expert in the areas of - [Annenberg Foundation's Cinny Kennard and the Civic Duty of Philanthropy](https://www.letshearitcast.com/annenbergs-cinny-kennard/) - Eric interviews a truly great interviewer in this episode: Cinny Kennard, Executive Director of the Annenberg Foundation in Los Angeles. Cinny has had a long and fascinating career in the world of radio and television journalism. Her work includes coverage of the Anita Hill - Clarence Thomas sexual harassment controversy, the 1992 U.S. presidential election, - [Super Tuesday Special - Bernie Sanders’ Pollster Ben Tulchin](https://www.letshearitcast.com/ben-tulchin/) - No matter what you think of Bernie Sanders, there’s no question that he has become a powerful force in American politics. Near the center of that juggernaut is Ben Tulchin, the President of Tulchin Research, and our guest on this week’s episode of Let’s Hear It. Ben felt the Bern early in 2016, helping to - [Shanelle Matthews - The Radical Communicator of Our Time](https://www.letshearitcast.com/shanelle_matthews/) - If you are ready for just a minor departure from COVID-related communications, we offer an interview with Shanelle Matthews, the founder of the Radical Communicators Network. In the aftermath of the 2016 election, Shanelle founded the Radical Communicators Network, an organization that connects progressive communicators with research, meetings, and even an old-school listserv. She is - [Seasoned Voices During Difficult Times - A COVID-19 Special Edition](https://www.letshearitcast.com/barbara-reynolds-and-thomson-prentice/) - We hope that all of our Let’s Hear It listeners are staying safe and socially connected while heeding prudent calls from public health experts to practice physical distancing. With the rush of news related to COVID-19, we checked in with two experts who have tremendous experience communicating during epidemics - Dr. Barbara Reynolds and Thomson - [Leadership in a Crisis - A ComNet Webinar with Joanne Krell of Defy Communications](https://www.letshearitcast.com/joanne_krell/) - Joanne Krell is the kind of communications expert you want in your corner when it matters most. She has led communications at the WK Kellogg Foundation AND General Motors, and when she talks, we listen. Joanne, who is the co-founder and Managing Partner of Defy Communications in Ann Arbor, Michigan, led a webinar hosted by - [Saru Jayaraman and One Fair Wage: Making the Restaurant Industry Work for Workers](https://www.letshearitcast.com/saru-jayaraman/) - Eric sat down with Saru Jayaraman five weeks and a lifetime ago. Few of us fully appreciated the implications of the COVID crisis at the time, but the conversation centers on the very issues the crisis has raised around service workers and equity. Saru is an attorney and activist who is changing the way our - [“Make Your Content Like a Twinkie” - Talking Presentation Design with One of the Greats – Nolan Haims](https://www.letshearitcast.com/nolan-haims/) - For those folks who are fortunate enough to be able to work in these challenging times, much of their time is spent staring at a screen in “meetings.” Many of these “meetings” involve what we can charitably call “presentations.” The chilling fact is that far too many folks are forced to endure presentations that look - [Ann Christiano Builds a Field Where There Never Was a Field](https://www.letshearitcast.com/annchristiano/) - Ann Christiano, the Frank Karel Chair in Public Interest Communications at the University of Florida at Gainesville, did not set out to be an academic. Before she came to the University of Florida, Ann spent more than a decade as a senior communications officer at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. But she has now truly - [Alexis Madrigal of the COVID Tracking Project Outdoes the CDC](https://www.letshearitcast.com/alexis-madrigal-outdoes-the-cdc/) - You know that old saying “see a problem, it’s yours”? Alexis Madrigal and his colleagues at The Atlantic have taken that to extremes. As the coronavirus story was developing in early March, Alexis, a staff writer at The Atlantic, had trouble getting good data about COVID-19, so he and a few colleagues started the COVID - [Dominique Derbigny on Closing the Women's Wealth Gap](https://www.letshearitcast.com/dominique_derbigny/) - Welcome to another episode of Let’s Hear It. We hope you are staying as physically distanced and emotionally connected as you can! This week, we had the honor of speaking with Dominique Derbigny, the Deputy Director of the Closing the Women’s Wealth Gap initiative and author of an extraordinary piece on the inequity of aid - [Revisiting Our Conversation with Ben McBride](https://www.letshearitcast.com/ben-mcbride2/) - We hope that you are staying well and healthy and safe. As we were thinking this week about what show to share with you, we kept returning to this conversation with Ben McBride that aired last year. Ben is a pastor and activist who has devoted his career to healing and reconciliation. He lives in - [Thaler Pekar and the Magic of Sharing Stories](https://www.letshearitcast.com/thaler-pekar/) - In the past month, nonprofits and foundations across the country have made strong statements of commitment to racial justice, in particular to support the Movement for Black Lives. At the center of this work is an understanding that we need to create new narratives about what we want our future to look like and how - [Swimming in a Sea of Disinformation: Author Nina Jankowicz on How to Lose the Information War](https://www.letshearitcast.com/swimming-in-a-sea-of-disinformation-author-nina-jankowicz-on-how-to-lose-the-information-war/) - Unless you’ve been living under an extremely large rock for the past four years, by now you are well aware that the information we receive on a daily basis isn’t always what it seems to be. This week, Kirk interviews Nina Jankowicz, whose new book, How to Lose the Information War: Russia, Fake News, and - [Sabeel Rahman of Demos is the Optimist We All Need to Hear From](https://www.letshearitcast.com/sabeel-rahman-of-demos-is-the-optimist-we-all-need-to-hear-from/) - Sabeel Rahman is a leading progressive thinker, movement builder, convener, and collaborator whose specialty is linking big ideas to social change strategies. Since 2018, he has been the president of Demos, an organization that was started in 2000 by progressive foundations that wanted to respond to right wing think tanks with a focus on progressive - [Renée DiResta – Disinformation in the Age of COVID](https://www.letshearitcast.com/renee-diresta/) - This week, Disinformation King Kirk Brown sits down with Renée DiResta, Technical Research Manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, a multidisciplinary research center that works on understanding how information moves on the internet. Renée has written extensively on the topic of disinformation, much to the chagrin (or delight?) of comment trolls, and has recently done - [Ideas for Days: Career Karma’s CEO and co-Founder Ruben Harris](https://www.letshearitcast.com/ideas-for-days-career-karmas-ceo-and-co-founder-ruben-harris/) - With so many people out of work and low on hope, we look to the leaders who are blazing new trails to success. Eric had the incredible luck to connect with Ruben Harris, co-founder of Career Karma, a startup that helps people network, learn, and find employment in tech. Ruben might as well be listed - [The opening of the American mind - Javier Torres-Campos of the Surdna Foundation talks about culture, equity, and the state of the American theater](https://www.letshearitcast.com/the-opening-of-the-american-mind-javier-torres-campos-of-the-surdna-foundation-talks-about-culture-equity-and-the-state-of-the-american-theater/) - Our cultural institutions shape how we view the world, and Javier Torres-Campos, the Director of the Thriving Cultures Program at the Surdna Foundation, is doing his part to help shape those cultural institutions for the better. Javier doesn’t just fund the arts, either. He is looking at how changes in city planning, design, and even - [ComNetworkV - A Preview of This Year's Virtual Gathering](https://www.letshearitcast.com/comnetworkv-a-preview-of-this-years-virtual-gathering/) - There are no excuses not to make it to ComNet this year – it’s free and it’s virtual. So you don’t have to leave the house and you can attend in your pajamas. Eric speaks with the Communications Network’s CEO Sean Gibbons about all the amazing keynotes, breakouts, and the annual Day of Service, which - [ComNet’s Clarence B. Jones Award Winner Susan Vandergriff of A Step Ahead Chattanooga](https://www.letshearitcast.com/comnets-clarence-b-jones-award-winner-susan-vandergriff-of-a-step-ahead-chattanooga/) - Susan Vandergriff walked away from a seventeen-year career as a banker because something was missing in her life. She went back to school, studied social work, and ended up with a part-time office manager job at a new organization called A Step Ahead Chattanooga, whose mission was to provide free reproductive health care to women - [Planned Parenthood CEO Alexis McGill Johnson at ComNetworkV](https://www.letshearitcast.com/planned-parenthood-ceo-alexis-mcgill-johnson-at-comnetworkv/) - If you missed ComnetworkV or if you would like to revisit that truly exciting week, you’re in luck. Over the next few weeks, we’ll be posting some of the highlights of the conference. We begin this week with a fascinating conversation with Alexis McGill Johnson, the President and CEO of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. - [David Roberts of Vox - A Beacon in the Smog](https://www.letshearitcast.com/david-roberts-of-vox-a-beacon-in-the-smog/) - We have a doozy for you this week. Kirk sits down with David Roberts, the outspoken energy and climate change writer for Vox, to talk about power, climate, and (Kirk’s favorite) conspiracy theories. David started writing in 2000 when he answered a Craigslist ad for a new environmental publication called Grist, and he has been - [Daniel Lee of the Levi Strauss Foundation Will Warm the Cockles of Your Heart](https://www.letshearitcast.com/daniel-lee-of-the-levi-strauss-foundation-will-warm-the-cockles-of-your-heart/) - We’re back! It’s been an exhausting couple of weeks, and if you’re looking for a podcast to soothe your stressed-out soul, look no further than this episode featuring Daniel Lee, the Executive Director of the Levi Strauss Foundation. Daniel was raised in South Dakota, where his was only the second Korean family in the history - [The Antidote – A Movie About Kindness and Caring in America Comes Along in the Nick of Time](https://www.letshearitcast.com/the-antidote/) - Kahane Cooperman and John Hoffman may be just what we need to soothe America’s ragged soul. They have created a documentary film about kindness and caring called The Antidote, which explores how nine communities across the country are building bridges across difference and finding ways to take care of each other in the face of - [We will emerge from this wounding – Joy Harjo, the first Indigenous Poet Laureate](https://www.letshearitcast.com/joy-harjo/) - JoyIn this week’s show, we have a really special treat - Joy Harjo, the first indigenous Poet Laureate of the United States. Joy is in conversation with Rebecca Arno, the Chief Operating Officer of the Barton Insitute for Community Action at the University of Denver in a session recorded as part of ComnetV, the virtual - [Let's Hear It is Back with Season Three!](https://www.letshearitcast.com/seasonthree/) - Welcome back to Season Three of Let's Hear It! Kirk and Eric take a brief look back at that crazy year and discuss what they're looking forward to in the year ahead. - [Trabian Shorters and the Genius of "Asset Framing"](https://www.letshearitcast.com/trabian-shorters-and-the-genius-of-asset-framing/) - We are incredibly excited to have Trabian Shorters as our guest this week. Trabian, who runs BMe Community, has helped change the way so many of us communicate. He has drawn upon an amazing combination of brain science and good old hacking to help people across the nonprofit world understand the power of defining people - [There's News About Young People and Democracy - And It's a Little Scary](https://www.letshearitcast.com/theres-news-about-young-people-and-democracy-and-its-a-little-scary/) - We’re back at Let’s Hear It with a great interview from Kirk! We had the remarkable pleasure (mixed with a little pain) of hearing Dr. Roberto Stefan Foa and Daniella Wenger from the University of Cambridge talk about their study of the future of democracy and young peoples’ involvement in it. What may seem like - [Andy Goodman - Why Bad Zoom Calls Happen to Good Causes](https://www.letshearitcast.com/andy-goodman-why-bad-zoom-calls-happen-to-good-causes/) - This week, it is our pleasure to share Eric’s conversation with Andy Goodman – a master storyteller, writer, and communications Swiss Army knife. Andy is Director of the Goodman Center and he is the author of a very helpful new resource – Unmuted: What Works, What Doesn’t, and How We Can All Do Better When - [SF Foundation's Valerie Goode Has Never Seen Her Office](https://www.letshearitcast.com/sf-foundations-valerie-goode-has-never-seen-her-office/) - Valerie Goode has been the Vice President of Marketing and Communications at the San Francisco Foundation for a year now, but she has yet to set foot in her office. She has also led communications at a community foundation dedicated to advancing racial equity and economic inclusion at a moment when the challenges and opportunities - [Lowell Weiss Got Yelled at by the President and other Tales of Derring-Do](https://www.letshearitcast.com/lowell-weiss-got-yelled-at-by-the-president-and-other-tales-of-derring-do/) - Sometimes we need a little breath of fresh air during the workday. This week’s guest on Let’s Hear It might just do the trick. Lowell Weiss, President of Cascade Philanthropy Advisors, is probably one of the most genial guests we’ve had the pleasure of speaking with. From his behind-the-scenes perches at the Atlantic Monthly, the - [Kris Putnam-Walkerly: News Flash – Philanthropy is Messed Up](https://www.letshearitcast.com/kris-putnam-walkerly-news-flash-philanthropy-is-messed-up/) - Maybe working in philanthropy is like attending a large Thanksgiving family gathering. There are folks you dearly love, folks you put up with, and folks who need a bit of a talking to. Kris Putnam-Walkerly knows this as well as anyone. She is a philanthropic advisor with a long history in the field, and she - [Living the Work: Precious Stroud of the BlackFemaleProject](https://www.letshearitcast.com/living-the-work-precious-stroud-of-the-blackfemaleproject/) - Precious Stroud is a Let’s Hear It guest like no other. With a career that unites communication, higher education, and storytelling, she has created spaces where there weren’t spaces before and asked questions few have thought to ask. We’re very lucky to have her on the show. Precious’s CV, like so many remarkable guests we’ve - [Rinku Sen of the Narrative Initiative Shows Us Why What We Say Matters](https://www.letshearitcast.com/rinkusen/) - It’s not easy to describe a guest as dynamic as Rinku Sen, but we’ll give it a shot. Rinku is the executive director of Narrative Initiative, co-president of the Women’s March Board, and author of two incredible books. As a political strategist, she has worked with the ACLU and PolicyLink, and her work on the - [If You Are Very Lucky, Rich Neimand Will Make You Some Soup](https://www.letshearitcast.com/rich-neimand-of-neimand-collaborative/) - Rich Neimand has spent his long career using his considerable marketing chops to advance important social causes. His firm, Neimand Collaborative, has worked on a wide range of issues to improve education, protect the environment, improve people’s health, and promote financial inclusion, among many, many others. At the center is his focus on uniting different - [Edgar Villanueva’s Quest to Decolonize Philanthropy](https://www.letshearitcast.com/edgar-villanueva/) - Edgar Villanueva is an author, activist, and expert on issues of race, wealth, and philanthropy. He is the Principal of the Decolonizing Wealth Project and Liberated Capital and author of the bestselling book Decolonizing Wealth, whose second edition was just released in August. He advises a range of organizations including national and global philanthropies, Fortune - [Jasmine Banks of UnKoch My Campus is Unafraid](https://www.letshearitcast.com/jasmine-banks/) - Jasmine Banks is unafraid. As the Executive Director of UnKoch My Campus, she is fighting to preserve democracy and protect higher education from undue corporate donor influence. She and her colleagues are taking on a nationwide network of think tanks, "action" groups, and academics funded by Koch Industries and its many subsidiaries. And you think - [Stupski Foundation‘s Glen Galaich Offers the Best Idea Yet for How Philanthropy Should Measure Success](https://www.letshearitcast.com/glen-galaich/) - Did you miss us? We missed you! Let’s Hear It has been on a brief hiatus but we’re thrilled to be back with what we think is a cracking great conversation with Glen Galaich, the CEO of the Stupski Foundation in San Francisco. Eric sits down (in person!) with Glen to discuss Glen’s colorful career - [Aaron Belkin is a Stone-Cold Communications Genius](https://www.letshearitcast.com/aaron-belkin-is-a-stone-cold-communications-genius/) - We don’t bandy about terms like these, but Aaron Belkin is a stone-cold communications genius. He was a leader of the communications strategy that helped end the so-called “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy that prevented gay and lesbian soldiers from serving openly in the military, and he followed that with a successful campaign to allow - [Disability Rights Advocate Emily Ladau Blows Our Minds Wide Open](https://www.letshearitcast.com/disability-rights-advocate-emily-ladau-blows-our-minds-wide-open/) - When Emily Ladau appeared on Sesame Street at the age of ten, she probably didn’t realize that she was beginning a lifetime of advocacy for people living with disabilities. Emily is the author of Demystifying Disability: What to Know, What to Say, and How to Be An Ally, the Digital Content and Community Manager for - [Race Forward’s Jeff Chang: A Cultural Wing Walker and Oracle of the Zeitgeist Talks about Hip Hop, Chris Rock, and Moving Forward](https://www.letshearitcast.com/race-forwards-jeff-chang-a-cultural-wing-walker-and-oracle-of-the-zeitgeist-talks-about-hip-hop-chris-rock-and-moving-forward/) - Jeff Chang has such a special view of race and culture in America that it’s almost impossible to do him justice. He draws on his Hawaiian/Chinese roots and his background as a hip hop DJ and indie label founder to help us better understand culture, politics, the arts, and music. 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